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#1572194
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'Rey Skywalker' (Upcoming live action motion picture) - general discussion thread
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NFBisms said:

I’m not denying Disney is falling off hard, and I’m glad for it, but the casually inoffensive left-y politics that make it into a trade article here or there have never been the “sole” tool. You see it once and get all up in arms about it, that says more about you than it does Disney. What is Ant-Man Quantumania’s excuse

Evangeline Lilly has been very vocal about being anti-vax online. Disney won’t market her because of it.

BedeHistory731 said:

Dog whistles about “directors hating men” and the whole “leftist agenda” are disingenuous at best and downright dangerous at worst.

Not sure if you live in America but it is anything but dog whistles here. It is more train horns right next to your ear constantly.


I think even beyond the leftist agenda, I can agree with the fact that “Disney is spineless and has no principles or ideology”. Given their 2023, I would not be surprised at all if they have a major brand rehaul by 2025-2026 as their current “agenda” is obviously failing, bad.

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#1572186
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'Rey Skywalker' (Upcoming live action motion picture) - general discussion thread
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Disney has been a mess and is clearly focused on the wrong things. Even much so they are no longer the highest grossing studio.

Like it or not… Disney very clearly has a leftist agenda that has been hurting them badly! They need to focus less on checking political boxes and spend more time on crafting good stories that include strong female and/or racial characters rather than just making those items requirements solely for the sake of saying you have them in a film. You want to have a gay character, great! Make it something that is meaningful for the story you are trying to tell. The fact that those items are the SOLE thing that they are marketing movies off of is honestly disgraceful, and it shows beings that no one is going to see their movies.

https://variety.com/2024/film/box-office/universal-overtakes-disney-highest-grossing-studio-box-office-1235859823/

Also… box office analyst Dan Murrell estimates Disney has lost $1.3 Billion theatrically in 2023, nearly wiping out profits from Endgame, No Way Home, and Avatar 2 COMBINED.


If they start marketing stories and not racial and gender checkboxes than I can guarantee they will start making money again.

Why is the director talking about making men uncomfortable?!

She should be talking about Rey and how they want to dive more into her character and show how much of a badass she has become because of all the stuff she has been doing since Episode IX.

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#1571932
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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NeverarGreat said:

DZ-330 said:

Not sure if this could be relevant for V5 Ascendant, but the AI lines and concept are pretty cool!

https://youtu.be/nWgweAQLCmI?si=srSqX2D9WlqYCiTR

That was a sort of thing I was considering for this scene in an earlier idea, except instead of Luke Kylo is conversing with Han in order to establish his later scene with Han’s memory.

I do like it being Luke though to better callback to TLJ. Having it be Han doesn’t really make sense to me.

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#1571845
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Maybe just cleaning up the canon is the best thing…


“Rey… wherever you are… you are hard to find.”

“You are hard to get rid of.”

“I pushed you in the desert because I needed to see it… I needed you to see it… who you are. I know the darkness that lives in you, Rey…

“You’re lying.”

“You were right… your parents were no one. They chose to be, to keep you safe.

“Don’t!”

Your parents barely escaped from Exegol.

“I don’t want this!”

Palpatine wanted them dead!

“No!”

And soon after he learned of you.

(Rey sees the vision of her parents and her abandonment.)
“My Love… be brave.”
“You’ll be safe here… I promise.”
“Come back! Nooo!”

“They paid for your protection… in more than one way.”

“Stop talking.”

“Rey… I learned what happened to them.”

(Cutaway to heroes capture)

Your parents wanted Luke to protect you, searching the Jakku desert for his allies… but Palpatine’s assassins caught up to them, they wouldn’t say where you were… so he gave the order.

(Rey sees her parents get killed.)

“So that’s where you are.”

“You know why the Emperor’s always wanted you dead. I’ll come tell you.”

“Why did the Emperor come for me? Why did he want to kill a child? Tell me.”

Because he no longer needed your father. After his return his clones became threats to him, as well as their offspring. You don’t just have power, Rey… you have his power. You are a Palpatine.

My mother was the daughter of Vader. Your father was a clone of the Emperor. What Palpatine doesn’t know is that we’ve become a dyad in the Force. Two that are one. Together we can end him and the Sith, and take his power to forge something new…

(Removes his helmet)

“You know what you need to do. You know.”

“I know."

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#1571573
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
Time

Having Rey’s parents be cultists that grew a heart just seems the most “Star Wars” to me.

I 100% think that is the angle that should be taken with this plot thread.

The whole “filthy junk traders who sold you for drinking money” in TLJ was what Kylo saw in a vision of Rey’s parents. And if his vision was just what he saw from her parents with Unkar on Jakku, anyone would make that same assumption.

Why would the Sith trust junkers to raise an Emperor clone? That just makes zero sense.

The ONLY way for this to work is:

  • Rey is created from Palps’ DNA, maybe not refer to her as a clone but a creation. Leave it more vague.
  • Rey’s “parents” were cultists who grew to love Rey and wanted her safe from Palps.
  • They stole Ochi’s ship and escaped. If the cultists got to Exegol they should know how to get out, an easy assumption for general audiences. It also makes them more heroic and essential to the story even though they are “nobodies”.
  • Rey’s “parents” seek Luke and Lor San Tekka’s people for protection.
  • Palpatine sent his assassins to Jakku and Rey’s parents are killed.
  • Ochi at some point travels to Pasanna while Luke is hunting him down after he is follwing the lead from Lor San Tekka.
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#1571299
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
Time

JarJar, I like! Only tweak I’d suggest:

Because he no longer needed you. After his return, and your escape, he saw his creations as a threat
to his power. Your blood… is his blood. You… are a Palpatine.

The only reason for your existence was to be one of his vessels."

The only reasoning is to not downright say she is a clone, but she was created from him. This leaves things a little more vague which I think might be a good thing in this situation and help smooth out “Rey Palpatine” better. She’s not a grandchild, and it’s not explicitly stated that she is a clone, but that she was created from him.

Plus it can help make Luke’s “…some things are stronger than blood.” hit a little bit harder.

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#1571258
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
Time

The biggest issue I am seeing with most of these rewrites is that it is TOO in-detail. Star Wars has ALWAYS had very basic explanations of things, and in most cases, uses simple words to convey the message.

With these very expositional lines plus them being AI-generated, I have a feeling it is just going to sound off. I think it is a great area to better explain “Rey Palpatine” in the context of this edit, but we can’t make Kylo sound unnatural by all of the sudden using large words and going on lengthy exposition dumps which is something his character has never done.

That being said… and taking/changing the best from what I have seen so far…


“Rey… wherever you are… you are hard to find.”

“You are hard to get rid of.”

“I pushed you in the desert because I needed to see it… I needed you to see it… who you are. I know the darkness that lives in you, Rey…

“You’re lying.”

“You were right… your parents were no one… torn over their allegiance to the Sith cult.

“Don’t!”

Your barren mother was desperate for a child… she saw one she could save.

“I don’t want this!”

She stole you from the Sith!

“No!”

But taking you caught Palpatine’s attention.

(Rey sees the vision of her parents and her abandonment.)
“My Love… be brave.”
“You’ll be safe here… I promise.”
“Come back! Nooo!”

“They paid for your protection… in more than one way.”

“Stop talking.”

“Rey… I learned what happened to them.”

(Cutaway to heroes capture)

Your parents sought out Luke’s protection, searching the Jakku desert for his allies… but Palpatine’s assassins caught up to them, they wouldn’t say where you were… so he gave the order.

(Rey sees her parents get killed.)

“So that’s where you are.”

“You know why the Emperor’s always wanted you dead. I’ll come tell you.”

“Why did the Emperor come for me? Why did he want to kill a child? Tell me.”

Because he no longer needed you. With his return, and your escape, his clones became threats to his power. You’re one of his clones. You are a Palpatine.

The only reason for your creation was to be one of his vessels. But what Palpatine doesn’t know is that we’ve become a Dyad in the Force, Rey… two that are one. Together we can end him and the Sith, and take his power to forge something new…

(Removes his helmet)

“You know what you need to do. You know.”

“I know.”


By having Rey’s parents be members of the cult, then have a change of heart and try to save Rey fits great with Rey’s line to Palpatine on Exegol:

“My parents were strong… they saved me from you.”

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#1571163
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
Time

Here is a stab at cleaning up the other lines…


“Why did the Emperor come for me? Why did he want to kill a child? Tell me.”

"Because you were a threat to him once his spirit claimed another host. All his clones were… Rey, you have his power. You are a Palpatine.

"The sole reason for your creation was to be one of his vessels. But what Palpatine doesn’t know is that we’ve become a Dyad in the Force, Rey… two that are one. Together we can end him, and finally let the past die.

(Removes his helmet)

“You know what you need to do. You know.”

“I know.”

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#1571160
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
Time

Guys… I love this. If we can get it implemented seamlessly… holy crap for V5!!!

As for one of the lines… I think this sounds a little more natural and less “Basil Exposition-y”

Your parents saught out Luke’s protection, searching the Jakku desert for his allies… but Palpatine’s assassins caught up to them, they wouldn’t say where you were… so he gave the order.

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#1569818
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
Time

@Octorox, I highly agree.

There is some time for an unmasked Kylo AI line to be added right after Rey falls and drops the Wayfinder and Kylo picks it up. This time could be used to help sell the idea of her using her inner darkness with the blade to reveal the path to the Wayfinder.


Kylo: “Embracing the darkness…

Rey ignites her lightsaber…

Kylo: That’s the only way the dagger tells. Look at yourself. You wanted to prove to my mother that you were a Jedi but you proved something else. You can’t go back to her now, like I can’t."

Rey: “Give it to me.

Kylo: “The dark side… is in our nature. Surrender to it.

Rey: “Give it… to me.

Kylo: “The only way you’re getting to Exegol… is with me.

Rey: “NoOoOo!

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#1569798
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hal 9000 said:

And I like that new 3PO line idea! “I do believe I am some sort of… spy.” Perfect.

https://www.101soundboards.com/sounds/6919407-i-do-believe-i-am-some-sort-of-spy

I’m sure @JarJar’s AI line would sound better though.

Also, is it worth revisiting the line used to replace “Rey’s first mission” now that more emotion can be added to the lines? The “very important mission” line does sound a little flat in its current form.

https://www.101soundboards.com/sounds/6919441-artoo-did-you-hear-i-am-going-with-mistress-rey-on-a-very-important-mission

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#1569736
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
Time

@RogueLeader, I love the idea of changing the inscription altogether. It always seemed odd to me that it is an “Ancient Sith” dagger, but then when they read Ochi’s inscription he added to it, it reads like Google Maps instructions. “Take a left turn at Endor, go to this exact latitude and longitude.” 😄

The only issue with your version, is that Finn’s line right after is: “The Endor System… where the last war ended.” So, we need to have some kind of line that Finn can pick up on in order to say that.

Embrace your darkness, and this blade will guide you.
Follow its whispers and it will show you what you seek.
The dark path begins where the last war ended.
Only this blade tells. Only this blade tells.

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#1569730
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
Time

Hal 9000 said:

  • Anything else we can do about the dagger? And I wonder about reinstating it being depicted as her parents’ murder weapon; it was removed to allow for greater clarity that it can mystically reveal directions to the wayfinder.

Are we able to generate lines for Sith 3P0?

“The Emperor’s wayfinder is in the Imperial vault. At delta 3-6, transient 9-3-6, bearing 3-2, on a moon in the Endor system. From the southern shore. Only this blade tells. Only this blade tells.”

“The Emperor’s wayfinder is in the Imperial vault. At delta 3-6, transient 9-3-6, bearing 3-2, on a moon in the Endor system. Give in to your darkness. This blade will lead you. Only this blade tells. Only this blade tells.”

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#1569640
Topic
Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
Time

Nev, I adjusted the lines around a bit and I think it accomplishes the same goal but reads a little better in my opinion


Kylo: “Rey… wherever you are… You are hard to find."

Rey: “You are hard to get rid of.”

Kylo: “I pushed you in the desert because I needed to see it… I needed you to see it… who you are. I know the rest of your story, Rey.”

Rey: “You’re lying.”

Kylo: “You were right… your parents were no one. You knew they were never coming back.”

Rey: “Don’t!”

Kylo: “You lied to yourself… but that only made your hate stronger.”

Rey: “I don’t want this!”

Kylo: “You hated them for it.”

Rey: “No!”

Kylo: “But you couldn’t live with your hate.”

(Cut Rey’s vision of her parents…since they are nobodies.)

Kylo: “Rey, I know how your parents died.”

Rey: “Stop talking.”

(Cutaway to heroes capture)

Kylo: “They were found by one of the Emperor’s agents. He wanted to know where you were… but they were too drunk to remember.”

(Cut vision of Rey’s parents getting killed.)

Kylo: “So that’s where you are. You know why the Emperor’s always wanted you, I’ll come tell you.”

Rey: “Why did the Emperor come for me? Why did he want to kill a child? Tell me.”

Kylo: “He never wanted to kill you, he saw what you would become… the most powerful host for his corrupted soul.”

Kylo: “Palpatine told me to kill you, but I know the truth. YOU are his true prize. There is darkness in you Rey, far more than me. But we can end this. We can end him, Rey… together.”

(Removes his helmet)

Kylo: “You know what you need to do. You know.”

Rey: “I know.”

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#1568861
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Nev beat me to it while I was writing my response haha. Luke cut himself off from the force and couldn’t see the whole picture. The “raw strength” he sensed in Kylo (Snoke) is the same he briefly sensed in Rey (Palpatine). It wasn’t until Leia started to train Rey that she put it together that she had PapaPalps™ power

It’s like poetry…