Fan_edit_fan said:

Patronizing terms such as “click haters” and “fandumb menace” are not welcome here. You can be excited for a project you know little about without having to label and ridicule posters on this forum. You come off way more toxic than anything you’re pretending to be “against” and perhaps a bit too hostile. 😉

I was referring to the hate-based content makers; the clickhaters and the fandumb menace. As in:

Sideburns of BoShek said:

Although they’ll be trying their best, and the usual suspects will certainly be profiting from grandstanding that hate. And that’s before we’ll see anything from the film itself!

and there was also no ridiculing of posters, or being “toxic” to other posters, on here.

rocknroll41 said:

screams in the void said:

Z6PO said:

Daisy Ridley excited for “fun direction” of new STAR WARS film (YouTube)

I’m glad she is excited to return . Also glad to hear her praise of Sharmeen Obaid’s documentary experience . Wasn’t there something about George Lucas making the original Star Wars in a documentary style ? Seems like this may be in good hands , between the lead , the director and the writer , I am optimistic . Idk , we will see . anyway , looking forward to seeing Star Wars in theaters again soon .

I’m optimistic too, but if I recall correctly, the whole thing about treating sw77 like a documentary had more to do with the first (notorious) cut of the film, and that the documentary “feel” was diminished for the Final Cut once they realized that it wasn’t working. That said, Sharmeen might still make a great film, and her documentary background could still very well be a good thing for this. Only time will tell.

Admittedly, though, the lack of enthusiasm from most others makes it difficult for me to maintain my own excitement, especially since now people are hating on this director for an out-of-context quote from 9 years ago. I might not even end up seeing the movie, cause I feel like I lose either way. Either I’ll hate it, or everyone will yell at me for liking it.

I’m looking forward to this, I didn’t think I would be, but Daisy’s excitement for it is infectious! So why shouldn’t fans be positive?

I know some of us a cautious, going on the mixed-to-disappointing content from Star Wars of late, and the ST, but this is something new from new people behind the scenes. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and look forward to it.

Screw the haters for bringing their out of context quotes from years ago and trying to merge them into something they are clearly not. Don’t let them spoil your take on the film. Hopefully it’ll be a good one, maybe something a little different too?

If it sucks, then okay, but it won’t be because of perceived political “agendas”, or the hate of Fandumb Menace and clickhaiters spout. Although they’ll be trying their best, and the usual suspects will certainly be profiting from grandstanding that hate. And that’s before we’ll see anything from the film itself!

‘Star Wars: The Acolyte’ Sets Summer 2024 Release Window [Exclusive] - from Collider

 
• The Acolyte is a highly-anticipated Star Wars series set to release on Disney+ this summer, taking place 50 years before The Phantom Menace .
• The series follows a former Jedi Padawan and her one-time Master as they investigate sinister crimes in an ever-changing galaxy, challenging the fallibility of the Jedi Order.
• Exciting is the inclusion of Vernestra Rwoh, a fan-favorite character from The High Republic books, promising an intriguing storyline.
 

'High Republic fans, the wait just got that much more bearable. Ever since releasing its first trailer at Star Wars Celebration in London last year, the hype for Star Wars series The Acolyte has only grown, with fans eager for any update on the highly-anticipated project. Now, Collider has learned that the live-action High Republic-set series from creator Leslye Headland is set to release on Disney+ this summer.

Set 50 years before the events of The Phantom Menace, The Acolyte will follow a former Jedi Padawan, and her one-time Master as they fall into an investigation of sinister crimes in an ever-changing galaxy. The trailer that premiered at Star Wars Celebration only gave fans a hint at what they could expect when the series premieres, but even so, already impressed those lucky enough to see it with the bold visual take on an era that thus far has not appeared on screen.

The series also boasts a massive, and massively-talented, ensemble cast led by Amandla Stenberg. They will be joined by Squid Game star Lee Jung-jae as a Jedi Master, and Joonas Suotamo as a Wookiee Jedi named Kelnacca. Also in The Acolyte’s cast are Jodie Turner-Smith, Manny Jacinto, and Charlie Barnett, though in typical Star Wars fashion, details about their roles are heavily under wraps.
 

 
‘The Acolyte’ Has a Connection to ‘The High Republic’ Books

Less under wraps, and perhaps most exciting to fans of The High Republic books, was the news that Rebecca Henderson, initially announced to be playing a Mirialan Jedi, would in fact be playing an older version of Vernestra Rwoh, one of the more prominent characters in Phase I and III of the books, and an all-around fan-favorite.

The inclusion of Vernsestra is an exciting one, not just because of the connection to the books, but because of what such an inclusion might spell for fans of both the books and the character in her on-page and on-screen incarnations. Headland told Collider at Celebration that the series would “not be kind” to the Jedi, and would call the fallibility of the institution into question. With all the struggles Vernestra has already been through, and those she still has to face, there are probably few characters better suited to tackle the imperfections of the Jedi Order from the inside.

The Acolyte will premiere on Disney+ in Summer 2024.’
 

I am guessing the week after The Bad Batch season 3 finishes? (the final episode of TBB is on May 1)

Mocata said:

Razor Crest looks pretty cosy.

Taken from us too soon! I did like that ship, a welcome alternative to the Slave I.
 

I always had a soft spot for the E-Wing. The Legends version with the 3 laser gun over the cockpit, not so much the new Ahsoka series version.
 

 
Although the new E-Wing model from Hasbro does look quite nice, and “only” $100 (I think I’ll wait for the much cheaper ‘Micro Galaxy Squadron’ version, and hope they do a Legends version with the 3rd laser):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vEEFYBIlhY

Channel72 said:

There’s a fan-made plot synopsis/script outline that was circulating around in the 80s or early 90s which told the story of Episode 3. Obi-Wan is essentially the main character. The story also featured characters like “Lady Arcadia Skywalker”, who was Anakin’s wife, Bail Organa, and Captain Antilles. The story focuses a lot on the Alderaanian forces as Palpatine takes control of the Republic. There’s also a “Prince Valarium”, which indicates that whoever wrote this may have actually read (or at least heard details about) genuine early drafts of Star Wars. (They definitely read the ANH novelization at least.)

Anyway, this fan-made synopsis is close - both plot-wise and stylistically - to my vague expectations about the Prequels. At least, much closer than the actual Prequels that were released 1999-2005. I can’t say to what extent this fan-made synopsis was an amalgamation of pre-existing fan expectations, or to what extent it actually influenced fan expectations. I can’t even remember when or if I became aware of this plot synopsis as a child. But I can say with certainty that this plot synopsis is at least closer in spirit to what I expected from the Prequels.

Yeah! John L Flynn’s “Fall Of The Republic” script.

There are a few pieces about it listed in the Index thread for ‘Beyond the Original Trilogy’:

oojason said:
 

• For those who are familiar with it, what do you think of the fan script of “Fall of the Republic”? (2023 thread)

• Interesting Hypothesis of the Prequels Story from the Mid 90’s (2005 thread; John L Flynn’s ‘Fall Of The Republic’ fan-script)

^ John L Flynn’s ‘fan-lore’ script: 1983’s Fall of the Republic & 1994’s Looking Back to the Future of Star Wars & his other works

He also wrote pieces for Starlog, and maybe similar publications like Insider and CineScape? One of the above threads has a podcast with him on it talking about FOTR and his similar works. Screamsinthevoid linked to an article of two by him in here from the mid-90s, I’ll dig them out later.

I really liked FOTR at the time, and still prefer it to what we actually got. Though imagination and our projections in filling in the blanks often triumphs reality. I’d love to see an animation or comic book form of it, even fan made, but then is so much of that early “what if?” stuff I’d like to see, along the lines of “The Star Wars” comics from 2013/14.

Edit: John L Flynn article in Cinemscape for March 1995, posted up by Screamsinthevoid:

and just for fun: screams also posted a link to a Cinescape article from November 1997 guessing at what the Prequels could be like:

Air fryers.

Awesome things. Simple, quick and easy to use. Simple, quick and easy to clean.

A 256gb USB drive.

Gonna see if I can fit all the on-screen Star Wars releases on it. All the films, specials, series, animated shows. Everything apart from the SW LEGO content.

The word “gullible” has now been removed from all dictionaries.

That actually looks interesting and fun trip down memory lane. You’re right, these recent documentaries for the older lesser known stuff is good to see.

It may even be better than the original content itself if this’ll be anything like A Disturbance In The Force!

Getting out of the cold and rain, then sitting in front of the fire with a hot drink, and relaxing by doing nothing except listening to the rain outside.

They look very cool, a good range from across the franchise, and fair prices too.

https://www.amazon.com/Squadron-Scavenged-Off-World-SWJ0030-Multicolored/dp/B0BKX4YRFZ - $26 for the Razor Crest!
 

 
If they ever do Luthen Rael’s Fondor Haulcraft from Andor, I’d definitely get that.

Edit: I looked more into these and they appear great value for money. Ideal for someone where display space may be at a premium and doesn’t want to pay a premium price. The sculpts and build quality look impressive, some cool detailing, weathering and battle damage, and nice paint work as the series has progressed. Vehicles from all corners of Star Wars too. I hope Andor is also included soon.

Respect to Jazwares for this range, especially at these prices.

Considering the AT-AT is the most expansive set, it looks good bang-for-your-buck. The Falcon, AT-AT and Ghost all feature light and sound effects.

The Falcon: www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bIek5hy7UY
AT-AT: www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDjNNfmqXPo
The Ghost: www.youtube.com/shorts/mxXpgxh_krg

NotalgicAdam has a YouTube playlist for the series: www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn_tW4Hgcvd7s_63BmovxlgVTNbwtfvC7

More:

Star Wars Micro Galaxy Squadron Series 1 Review - at Vullk
Star Wars Micro Galaxy Squadron Series 2 Review - at Vullk
Star Wars Micro Galaxy Squadron Series 3 Review - at Vullk
Star Wars Micro Galaxy Squadron Series 4 - at RebelScale
Star Wars Micro Galaxy Squadron Series 5 - at RebelScale
Star Wars Micro Galaxy Squadron Series 6

https://www.amazon.com/WICAREYO-Protector-Plastic-Protective-Display/dp/B09ZP8M5N4?th=1 - 10pcs for $18, with a host of other options on there. Some with UV protection if you’re showing them on a shelf or display exposed to sunlight.

If my figures were still carded I’d have put them in there. Looks pretty cool on the shelf on a few collector videos I’ve seen.

As for valuation I’ve no idea, https://rebelscum.com is still around, and has some guide prices, and their own forum.
 

I’m still amazed that good Kenner ships and sets from our childhood era is cheaper than the new LEOG sets and ships!

I looked at the 25th anniversary sets from Lego: https://www.starwars.com/news/lego-star-wars-25th-anniversary
 

^ $85
 

^ $80
 

^ $55

 
I thought those are cool, I’ll get some of those, but then realized they are only miniatures. Not a lot of LEGO in them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6X3wII1pio - a 5 minute “first look” video, and an idea on the actual sizes of the ships.

Woah. $500 for The Ghost? It looks awesome, but I feel like Mocata does, that pricetag!!!

This is now close to release?

An alpha version (after the 6 Betas):

(above picture was found on twitter)

Keyan Farlander said:

snip

That is great, and thank you.

I’ll add another tick to the list of queries being answered, and add the Kenobi clone fan theory into the Miscellaneous category.

Munchkin_1986 said:

Hello Connor,

I also would like to ask if I could get an invitation code, I have watched the Despecialized versions before but would like to enjoy the 4k77 with my new OLED 77 inch screen.
Thanks for the support

Invite codes for “TheStarWarsTrilogy•com” forums are listed in the 4K77, 4K80 and 4K83 project threads on here.

The “You need to register before you can see these forums” page on “TheStarWarsTrilogy•com” forums is a big help.
 

An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Star Wars Preservations is a good place to look for any of the other Star Wars preservation projects.

swingd721 said:

I can’t find any

Scroll down the front page of the site and you’ll see:

Star Wars Preservation

In there is an “Index of Projects”, pinned near the top of that section, in there is a whole category on GOUT projects.

I hope you find what you’re looking for.

Caston said:

Man, awesome thread. I’ve only skimmed it so far, but am already looking forward to getting into it and reading a number pf the old novels, sourcebooks, and guides again!

My meagre contribution:

<snip>

wookieepedia page for Garm Bel Iblis: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Garm_Bel_Iblis/Legends

Thanks Caston. That’s a cool find and reminder. I’ve added a ‘Garm Bel Iblis’ section to the Characters and Biographies | Protagonists & Allies category, and added your post to that.
 

Like we were talking about earlier in the week, I still miss the idea of the pre-PT EU, and find it a pity there are no more new additions or releases, for that earlier “pre-PT era” timeline. Maybe there are some fan fics out there somewhere?
 

Thanks Mocata, and also JadedSkywalker. The Charles Lippincott blog makes for a great a read through, some truly awesome stuff on there, and I’ve only just read a little of it so far.
 

Superweapon VII said:

Posts on TFN’s Jedi Council Forums tipped me off to Bataal Bandu, a Sith belonging to a faction in opposition to Vader. Luckily, the Internet Archive has a copy of the magazine he’s mentioned in:

https://archive.org/details/IQ.Gamer.Partial.Collection/inquest.043.(1998-11)/mode/2up?view=theater

Thanks Superweapon VII! Batall Bandu is interesting enough for his own comic after reading that article.

That Internet Archive has been superb for content in here, and for much older and no longer acknowledged content on the official sites in general.

I’ve added the article, links and a couple of screenshots to the Settings, Planets and Systems | Organisations and Governments section, in “The Sith” category #5.

henzINNIT and Vladius: thank you for the kind words.

screams in the void: nice finds and sources! I look forward to having the time to read them over the weekend.

Gandalf the Cyan: thank you also for the kind words. What a resource that Deckplans Alliance website is!

I’ve added it to the Miscellaneous section of the thread, as Category #6, and also credited you in there too.

Looking forward to giving that site a more thorough read through soon as well.

screams in the void said:

Awesome thread BoShek !!! A couple things to add to the thread …In Star Wars official poster monthly from 1978 , the Storm Troopers were described as clones ,

Thanks screams, and for the additions!

" The creation of an Imperial Stormtrooper. A cloned man is one of a group of genetically identical humans, an assembly-line product. He is a thinking man, but he serves a specific purpose and no other. A Clone has no mother; only his trainers, and he accepts his fate because he believes it is inevitable. A Clone is, physically and emotionally, a normal man. He simply has no human rights and no name. He is the property of the Emperor. Soldiers fully formed in the growth tanks quickly proved impractical. Scientists found themselves the befuddled fathers of 12-stone blubbering idiots. A foetus is now removed from the hatchery after a gestation period of 60 weeks and is delivered immediately into the hands of its trainers."

A scan of said article can be found here…https://imgur.com/08OBzmC

^ That is great. I’ve added a “Stormtrooper” category to the Characters and Biographies | Antagonists, Adversaries, and their Allies just for that.

Also , I have a Starlog magazine , issue 236 , celebrating the 20th anniversary of Star Wars in 1997 . There is an article in it speculating about the then upcoming prequel trilogy . It has some cartoony illustrations of a group of Jedi Knights all wearing Luke’s ROTJ garb ,mentions them fighting Mandalorians ,and gives a breakdown of how they thought each movie may go . Unfortunately , my copy is buried in a box somewhere in my walk in closet under a pile of old electronics . So if anyone has a copy of that issue ,it would be great to post it here with scans . I couldn’t find the article online anywhere . ( too bad the internet archive took down their collection of Starlog that was on there a few years back )

^ I’d love to see that, and the speculation for the PT too. I hope someone has a scan of it and can post it here. Added it to the A list of ‘Suggestions, Claims, Memories, and Posts’ on more pre-PT era material: to be checked and confirmed. Thanks again.

Also , as the prologue of the original novel mentioned the Journal Of The Whills , I always thought that might have been the title of Episode 1 and we would have gotten an explanation of who they were . One thing I appreciated about Rogue One was the inclusion of Chirrut and Baze as Guardians of the Whills , nodding back to that .

^ Yes! I really enjoy those kind of nods and call backs. I think there was a manga comic too on Chirrut and Baze during their as Guardians of the Whills? I’ll have to get around to reading that soon.

Season 2 of Visions got 6 Annie Award nominations!

Always pleasing to see Star Wars content as varied and interesting as this get some love and recognition:
 

https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-visions-volume-2-annie-award-nominations
 

Best FX - TV/Media: Sith
Best Character Animation - TV/Media: I Am Your Mother
Best Direction - TV/Media: Screecher’s Reach
Best Music - TV/Media: Aau’s Song
Best Production Design - TV/Media: Sith
Best Editorial - TV/Media: Screecher’s Reach

Edit - Visions season 2 won 2 Annie awards: https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-visions-annie-awards-2024

Paul Young and Cartoon Saloon won Best Direction for “Screecher’s Reach,”

Markus Wormstorm, Nadia Darries, Dineo Du Toit, and Trigger Fish Animation Studios won Best Music for “Aau’s Song.”

Credits

This was all inspired by theprequelsrule’s Wars, organizations, relationships, and galactic history before the Prequels thread.

As well as some other recent OT threads and discussions on the subject of pre-Prequel era lore. I hope anyone interested will post up any material or content for that pre-PT era, and also any memories or current thoughts on the subject in here, too.

Tales Of The Jedi | 1993-1998 comic series | a general discussion thread + Veitch & Zahn’s other early worldbuilding projects.

Suggested Sources: The Original Trilogy films, draft scripts, TSWHS, 2 Ewok films, Droids cartoon, the books: 1976-83 (inc OT film novelisations), the later EU; novels, comics and games (notably the Thrawn Trilogy), WEG sourcebooks, guidebooks, Art Of books, toys & descriptions, Making Magic & BTM CD-Roms, collecting cards, radio plays, and any other official GFFA content.

^ Sources can also likely be found in magazines that had articles, interviews, and stories featuring material on the pre-Prequel era. Publications such as Starlog, Star Wars Insider, CinemaScape, Hyperspace, the official Fan Clubs and newsletters. Even the early years of the official Star Wars website and blog when such pre-PT lore & history was openly discussed and acknowledged.

It is worth acknowledging that this pre-Prequel era of lore also had some contradictions and flaws in its own history and timelines. Yet that for some of us, this was more interesting to see how George and Lucasfilm would attempt to reconcile any issues in other future material and films, or which timeline or content would ‘win out’.

Or us fans choosing our own personal preference, or certain point of view, which appealed to our imagination or head canon.

Thanks to theprequelsrule, DarthStarkiller1234, Vladius, Superweapon VII, Caston, BedeHistory731, fmalover, Spartacus01, darklordoftech, NFBisms, Emre16O1, JadedSkywalker, Channel72, Sevb32, Pagan Editor, RogueLeader, screamsinthevoid and others for their recent posts and threads on the pre-PT era & EU that inspired me to attempt this scrapbook resource thread.

Thanks also to oojason for suggesting ideas on possible layouts & formatting of this ‘info thread’, the linked video of ‘Obi Wan Kenobi explains the Force to Luke’, for sources & content, fixing errors, + writing most of the ‘Intro’ & ‘Canon’ sections for me.

I hope others will also post up any “pre-PT era” material they know of, and continue to add to this ‘living scrapbook’ resource.

And if not, hopefully this will simply be of interest for others, or may be of some use in a future “pre-PT era” scrapbook project.
 

A Thread Index:

• Introduction
• A quick note on ‘Canon’ (yep, I know…)
• Timelines: Story Events and Alterations
• Settings, Planets and Systems | Organisations and Governments
• The Jedi (as an Order Of Knights; their Way Of Life, the Force, Robes, Lightsabers etc)
• Characters and Biographies | Protagonists and Allies (including changes of persona or origin story)
• Characters and Biographies | Antagonists, Adversaries and their Allies (including changes of persona or origin story)
• Miscellaneous
• Blank Post (a spare post for possible future use; if ever required)
• A list of ‘Suggestions, Claims, Memories, and Posts’ on more pre-PT era material: to be checked and confirmed
• Index of Relevant OriginalTrilogy.com Threads
• Credits
 

Index of Relevant OriginalTrilogy•com Threads

The Index below is from the following category in ‘An Index for General Star Wars Discussion’:
 

'The Star Wars Universe: OT & EU - Life & Lore before the Prequels (the PT ushering in George’s ‘nu-SW rules’ and more retcons)’

oojason said:

Star Wars before the Prequels (with the PT ushering in George’s ‘nu-SW rules’) : life & lore from both the Original Trilogy & Expanded Universe…

 

Some threads highlighting ‘pre-PT era’ lore & history - before the Prequel films retconned it & introduced new lore…

 
• Wars, organizations, relationships, and galactic history before the Prequels (2019 thread)

• Putting The Original-Original Trilogy’s Prequel Story together (2008 thread)

• The Prequels as Envisioned by the (Pre-PT) Expanded Universe (2012 thread)

• What if The Prequels were based on the Pre-PT EU and were more “OT Accurate”? (2023 thread)

• How the EU and the OT described Anakin Skywalker, Palpatine and the Jedi Knights before the PT films? (2023 thread)

• Implied starting date of the Empire from OT dialogue (2015 thread; + character ages + when certain events took place…)

• Star Wars Prequels were mapped out in 1981, only nothing like the way they turned out (2013 thread)

• What if the Prequels were made in the 80’s? (2022 thread)

• Star Wars in the '90s? (2009 thread)

• Interesting Hypothesis of the Prequels Story from the Mid 90’s (2005 thread)

• What did we all expect from the Prequel Trilogy? (2004 thread)

• How did you envision the Prequels? (2007 thread)

• What were your original expectations for the PT? (2007 thread)

• How did you imagine The Star Wars Prequels before they came out? (2011 thread)

• What did you think the Clone Wars were gonna be? (2005 thread)

• How did you imagine the Emperor taking over? (2005 thread)

• Did you think Dagobah was Yoda’s homeworld before the Prequels were made? (2022 thread)

• How you pictured Anakin pre-PT (2015 thread)

• “You don’t know the power of the dark side! I must obey my master” (2005 thread; OT dialogue vs PT events)

• Shrinking Star Wars? (2011 thread)

• Did G. Lucas ever intend to portray the Jedi as a flawed institution in the Prequels? Or was it added later in the EU? (2021)

• Original Trilogy vs The Prequels: inconsistencies, retcons, plot holes and discrepancies… (2021 thread; ‘50+ issues’ list)
 

The Jedi & Sith; The Force - Light & Dark Side, in between, and the mystery…

 
Including discussions on the dissonance between the Jedi of the Original Trilogy era vs Prequels & since… (1976-1998 vs 1999-present)
 

• Lucas’ Inspirations for Star Wars (2012 thread)

• Bushido of Star Wars (2004 thread)

The Jedi Purge | a general discussion (2024 thread)

• Ignorance in the Star Wars Galaxy (2014 thread)

• Do you think the average citizen of the Star Wars galaxy would even be aware of the Force? (2012 thread)

• Personal Opinions on the Nature of the Force (2013 thread)

• Questions about the The Force & the SW universe (2018 thread)

• What was George talking about here? In his conversation with Alan Dean Foster? - re The Force in ESB (2020 thread)

• Inconsistent use of “the force” (2008 thread)

• Frivolous use of the Force (2014 thread)

• Unused force ability? - re The Force in ESB (2004 thread)

• Force Speed question? (2014 thread)

• How did Vader deflect those shots? (2009 thread)

• “explanations” about Vader (2009 thread)

• Help me settle an argument: does Luke use the ‘force choke’? (2004 thread)

• “You don’t know the power of the dark side! I must obey my master” (2005 thread)

• Luke VS the Emperor- What if Vader hadn’t been there? (2009 thread)

• In 30 years why do you think Emperor… never taught Vader how to do the lightning? (2016 thread)

• When and why did Lucas decide to make The Emperor a Force-user? (2022 thread)

• What would Darth Vader have been like as a ruler, if he had overthrown emperor palpatine and became the emperor/ruler of the galaxy himself?? (2012 thread)
 

The Jedi…

 
• Your favorite Jedi? (2011 thread)

• “I was ONCE (emphasis mine) a Jedi Knight, the same as your father.” (2007 thread)

• Is Obi-Wan a Jedi Master or a Jedi Knight? (2016 thread)

• Who Was Obi Wan Kenobi’s Real Master? (2014 thread)

• Original Trilogy vs The Prequels: inconsistencies, retcons, plot holes and discrepancies… (2021 unfinished ‘50+ topics list’ thread)

• Are the Jedi so good? (2011 thread)

• When did the Jedi become monks? (2007 thread)

• Were the Jedi supposed to not be allowed to get married, have children or any possessions when the OT was made? (2023)

• What Luke’s father and Darth Vader would have been like had Lucas kept them seperate? (2023 thread)

• At what point did Tatooine robes become Jedi uniforms? (2023 thread)

• how long does it take to train a jedi? (2005 thread)

• Do the Jedi steal children? (2007 thread)

• Too Old (2004 thread)

• On Jedi and Attachment (2022 thread)

• the next generation of Jedi (2010 thread; Jedi offspring, reproduction, attachments etc)

• Punishment for committing Adultery if you are a Jedi…?? (2005 thread)

• Yoda & Emperor PT vs OT (2005 thread)

• The Jedi of the PT (2014 thread)

• ROTS: The Jedi Now Seen In A Different Light… (2005 thread)

• I hate the Jedi (2019 thread; the disconnect between OT & PT Jedi)

• Who is the greatest Jedi of all time? (Dave Filoni says it is Anakin Skywalker. Is he?) (2023 thread)

• jedi spirits (2006 thread; EU spirit possession etc)

• I’ve given this a lot of thought, and I’ve decided this makes no sense. (Qui-Gon and Anakin’s ghosts.) (2006 thread)

• Why Didn’t Qui Gon Gin’s Body Disappear Like Obiwan’s and Yoda’s? (2017 thread)

• A mini-index of OT.com threads on the subject of Anakin Skywalker’s Force Ghost in Return Of The Jedi (2020 thread)
 

Lightsabers…

 
• What methods were used in coming up with the choreography of the lightsaber duels? (2020 thread)

• another example of Lucas changing things to appeal to a new generation - lightsaber dueling styles of OT vs PT (2010 thread)

• OT lightsaber colours (2019 thread; and some waffling on about the various colours used across the OT & Expanded Universe etc)

• Multiple Lightsaber Colour Appreciation Thread! (2012 thread; with images for many differing saber colours over time)

• The Curse of the Blue Lightsaber (2004 thread)

• Best (and worst) lightsaber colour? (2016 thread)

• Best (and worst) lightsaber design? (2016 thread)

• the lightsaber (2018 thread)

• lightsaber ambient light (2011 thread)

 

 

The Fall of Anakin Skywalker to the Dark Side / Vader being seduced by the power of the Dark Side…

 
• “You don’t know the power of the dark side! I must obey my master” (2005 thread)

• Anakin’s fall - did it really need three films or could it have been done in one? (2005 thread; pre-ROTS)

• For those who are familiar with it, what do you think of the fan script of “Fall of the Republic”? (2023 thread; by John L Flynn)

• Interesting Hypothesis of the Prequels Story from the Mid 90’s (2005 thread; John L Flynn’s ‘Fall Of The Republic’ fan-script)

^ John L Flynn’s ‘fan-lore’ script: 1983’s Fall of the Republic & 1994’s Looking Back to the Future of Star Wars & his other works

• How did you imagine The Star Wars Prequels before they came out? (2011 thread)

• Fall to the Dark Side? (2007 thread)

• One of the flaws with Anakin turning to the darkside… (2009 thread)

• Anakin’s fall to the Dark Side (2011 thread)

• Anakin’s official history (2015 thread)

• Help: looking for… ideas on fixing Anakin’s fall to the darkside (2019 thread)

• Anakin Skywalker’s turn to the dark side; your alternatives? (2021 thread)

• How would you restructure Anakin’s turn to the dark side in the Prequels? (2022 thread)

The Turn: A History of the Evolution of Anakin’s Downfall - from ‘The Secret History Of Star Wars’, by Michael Kaminski (zombie84)

^ Pages 202-207 of the “Making of Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith” book, by JW Rinzler, also chronicles the late re-writing & re-editing.

 

 

Midichlorians (+ the failed retcon attempt of them ‘having always been there’ in the GFFA, & their invention for the Prequels)

 
• Lucas’ EU in 1977 (midi-chlorians, space gypsies & crystal currency) (George retcons history re midichlorians)

• Proof of Lucas’ revisionism in Rinzler’s making-of book? (George retcons history to try and make midichlorians a thing in 1977)

• Midicholorians (2005 thread)

• Less Offensive Midichlorians (2008 thread)

• Anakin’s Father… (2005 thread)

• Who is Anakin’s father? (2021 thread)

• Midichlorians versus Life Day: which is worse? (2011 thread)

• Star Wars Prequels were mapped out in 1981, only nothing like the way they turned out (2013 thread)

• Other than Jar Jar and midichlorians, what don’t you want in episode 7? (2014 thread)

• Who are the Whills? (2014 thread)

• Midichlorians Are Not The Force (2021 thread)

• Question about PT to OT continuity (2004 thread; re midichlorians)

• George Lucas’ comments re his Sequel Trilogy (supposedly re the macrobiotic world and midichlorians, with more retcons)

• George Lucas’s Sequel Trilogy (2020 thread; with midichlorians + more retcons; Leia now being ‘The Chosen One’ instead)

• Connection between the Telomere tail of human DNA and midi-chlorians? (2012 thread)

 
 

Rather than re-post more of the above Index categories & threads here - I’ll simply list the relevant Index sections:-

 
The Categories listed below can be found in ‘An Index for General Star Wars Discussion’
 

• Original Trilogy vs later Star Wars: plot holes, inconsistencies, contradictions, disconnects, mental gymnastics, + stretches etc
• Vs & Similarities (between Trilogies and other Star Wars releases; PT vs OT, EU vs OT, EU vs Standalone Films, ST vs TV, etc)

• Canon
• ‘The pre-Prequel era EU’ discussions in ‘An Index & Help Thread for The Expanded Universe’ features many relevant threads too.

 

If anyone knows of any other relevant threads to include in this section please post them up. Especially for the original birth of the Rebellion, or pre-Prequel era Boba Fett (aka Jaster Mereel), Mandalorians who fought the Jedi in the Clone Wars, Palpatine (not a Sith or even a Dark Side user), Anakin, Obi-Wan, Thrawn, or any other character… that has seen their backstory or persona significantly change since the Prequel Trilogy era. Or please feel free to create any new threads yourselves on the topic…

If you’d like to see a more complete ‘Index Thread’ for this topic - please free to create one - and ask the mods to pin it up. 👍

 

 
^ click on the ‘Expand’ button above to see the lengthy ‘Index of Relevant Threads’ for this topic.
 

The above is correct as of 1st January, 2024. Check An Index for General Star Wars Discussion for more any new additions & edits etc.

DarthStarkiller1234, DuracellEnergizer, Wannabe Scholar, and a whole host of many other talented writers have also put together some ideas, outlines, and stories based on the ‘PT era’ and ‘pre-Prequel era’ of Star Wars over the years.

These can be found in the Script Writing and Re-writing forum, as well as…

An Index Thread for Script Writing and Re-writing

A Thread Index:

• Introduction
• A quick note on ‘Canon’ (yep, I know…)
• Timelines: Story Events and Alterations
• Settings, Planets and Systems | Organisations and Governments
• The Jedi (as an Order Of Knights; their Way Of Life, the Force, Robes, Lightsabers etc)
• Characters and Biographies | Protagonists and Allies (including changes of persona or origin story)
• Characters and Biographies | Antagonists, Adversaries and their Allies (including changes of persona or origin story)
• Miscellaneous
• Blank Post (a spare post for possible future use; if ever required)
• A list of ‘Suggestions, Claims, Memories, and Posts’ on more pre-PT era material: to be checked and confirmed
• Index of Relevant OriginalTrilogy.com Threads
• Credits